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#420127 - 08/12/09 08:44 AM
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Internet Tough Guy
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The playboy brand is in the process of being sold to the guy who owns all of the rights to the National Lampoon materials. His plans are to take it in a whole new direction.
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#420128 - 08/12/09 01:17 PM
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Hopefully the "New Direction" includes pictures of vaginas and assholes.
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#420129 - 08/12/09 07:33 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 08/30/07
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The playboy brand is in the process of being sold to the guy who owns all of the rights to the National Lampoon materials. His plans are to take it in a whole new direction.
How can a company that trades at fifty cents a share pony up the 300 million dollar asking price for Playboy Enterprises? Who would lend them the money?
Hey do you guys know that John Hughes Died?
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#420132 - 08/13/09 12:41 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
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The playboy brand is in the process of being sold to the guy who owns all of the rights to the National Lampoon materials. His plans are to take it in a whole new direction.
How can a company that trades at fifty cents a share pony up the 300 million dollar asking price for Playboy Enterprises? Who would lend them the money?
Hey do you guys know that John Hughes Died?
A company is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. According to the AAF The Playboy brand is #12 of the most recognised brands amoung males 45+. There is brand value there. However, that being said the brand has not been well taken care of.
They have gone far outside of their core business and they have paid for it. The new owner is a classic 45 year old guy who is all about money. He will do what it takes to turn a profit.BTW, he knows nothing about the Porn biz, other than hanging out at Hefs place with the bitches. He also flys in Bitches to his private place in Miami. If that means going in a more XXX direction then that's the way that he will take it.
He owns three restruants in South Beach
Two in LA Etc....the dude has serious cash
Money to loan is not a problem here. Taking the company private is what will happen.However, Obama may not let him do that. A reversal of the national trend. We all see now when you try and run a compnay by a democratic system. Business is not democratic. It is auto-cratic. There can only be one captain of the ship.
Quid Pro Quo..baby
I hope to have a little spare time this weekend and I plan on sitting down and figuring out what your were trying to say here.
Thank you for the nonsensical word-salad.
He owns three restaurants!!! OMG - he should buy General Motors while he's at it. 
Why would the president care if someone took a failing business private? Happens all the time.
You are welcome,,,,it's what I do The three restruants are on Collins Blvd asshole and one on Lincoln Ave. I guess the National Lampoon property is not worth anything right. The fucking doormat at the lincon property is worth more than your house trailer.
If you knew anything about valuation and the relative constraints reguarding percentage calculations in effect for schedule 11456 in the blue files of the FTA the rules about stock priceing you would fully understand my post.Oh shit, Im looking out my Benz window here and I sees your car.  One of the tires is going flat on your bedroom. You need to fix that or your tume of Jack Gel will be rolling around all night and youll have to wack off dry. You want to question my marketing knowledge, bring it .
BTW, a restruant is place where you sit down and eat food, not order fries on a box on the side of a building. 
Gia, straighten this poor child out please. He's been eating too many in and out burgers
Jerkwad, the President cares because he does not want ANMYTHING private. He wants to own and run it all. He now has GM and soon your life in his hands. Make sence? Think about it over the wekend. Mayby by sunday you will be able to google enough of these words to understand what I am saying. 
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#420134 - 08/13/09 02:21 PM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 02/23/05
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I don't have all day to teach you reading comprehension, so I'll point out a few highlights. Quote:
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How can a company that trades at fifty cents a share pony up the 300 million dollar asking price for Playboy Enterprises? Who would lend them the money?
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A company is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. According to the AAF The Playboy brand is #12 of the most recognised brands amoung males 45+. There is brand value there. <snip>
The O/P notes that a piece of shit company like National Lampoon (where the CEO was recently indicted for stock fraud Link1 Link2 ) could not likely come up with $300 million to buy Playboy.
You responded with a bunch of useless shit about Playboy's brand awareness, thereby completely missing the fact that the issue is Nat Lamp's worthless brand, not Playboy's nearly worthless one. Well played genius.
BTW financial guru - here's a snapshot of NatLamp Link EPS -0.39; Market Cap $4.63 Million. So, in answer to the O/Ps question of how they could come up with $300 million to buy Playboy, one answer is to liquidate their holdings in NatLamp and then come up with $295 million more (since only 2000 shares traded today, that might take a while).
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Jerkwad, the President cares because he does not want ANMYTHING private. He wants to own and run it all. He now has GM and soon your life in his hands. Make sence? Think about it over the wekend.
Another excellent point. I believe that the President will be personally evicting people from their homes right after he finishes euthanizing the retarded people (note to delanoojos: hide in the basement until the death squads leave your state).
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#420135 - 09/25/09 01:32 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 01/02/04
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You guys are all missing the mark with the Playboy discussion. Sure, the stock is in the shitter. Sure, Hef owns a controlling majority. Sure, the brand has seen better days. **BUT** the brand is still worth far more than the revolving credit facility and the company is far from worthless. Everybody knows the Playboy logo. Everybody.
The fact is that Playboy is a mainstream company with tentacles in publishing, adult DTC video, vod, ppv, cable network programming, interactive, apparel, jewelry, housewares and casinos. There isn't one other adult enterprise that wouldn't want to be as big a monstrosity as Playboy.
As a media company, they are having trouble navigating the physical to digital transition, just like everybody else but I haven't seen any of their vanilla sex videos wind up pirated on free clip sites. They may have been late to the interactive and VOD markets, but they're expanding there now. The one thing that they have fucked up is not getting into high-end strip clubs. They should open one in Vegas and fix that.
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#420136 - 09/25/09 03:34 PM
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just like everybody else but I haven't seen any of their vanilla sex videos wind up pirated on free clip sites.
they also own Adult.com...their videos i think are on the tube sites.
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#420139 - 09/25/09 06:51 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
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I wonder if Hefner is aware of or even cares about the financial struggles of his company. Maybe there is the sleazy equivalent of Fitzwilly operating in the mansion.
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#420141 - 12/01/09 05:09 AM
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Playboy has been working to update the brand and despite the fact that a strip club would be outside the norm it would be hugely profitable.
If it were up to me I'd take it the Playboy Club route and just ramp it up with servers in Playboy Bunny outfits and hot strippers. Fuck, I might even just go topless in the main showroom to attract more women to the clubs.
Look at the dough companies like Rick's Cabaret is raking in. $20MM in 3rd Q revenue. With Playboy branding a chain of strip clubs that same size could triple the gross.
that would be a conservative estimate naturally it is based largely on location and area wide marketing...they would have to have also in place an attractive code being that some clubs allow just any dancer to work there....this would be the cream of the crop maybe even a feature once a month...and they would also have to make it the upscale "gentelmens club" style making it "trendy" to be there...as maybe a regular nightclub/dance club.
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#420143 - 12/02/09 02:11 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 01/02/04
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Hef turning over the keys to his daughter aint it. Doomed to fail.
Christie walked with a severance package...
The douch running Playboy into the ground is a guy named Scott Flanders, the same guy who ran Freedom Communications (OC Register, Coast Magazine) into the ground.
Why any media company needing a turn around would hire an executive that already ruined a hugely profitable media company is beyond me.
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#420145 - 02/09/10 05:42 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
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Hefner being sued - TMZ
Great quote - "Today, the price of a Playboy magazine is far higher than the price of Playboy common stock." In 1999, the stock sold for $36 a share. Today Playboy closed at $3.14. The magazine sells for $5.99"
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#420146 - 02/09/10 09:20 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Do they own reality gang? The trailers seems to come from Playboy.com.
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#420147 - 02/10/10 09:37 AM
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By the time they are through court, you'll be able to trade a stack of cum covered 80's Playboys for 100 shares.
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#420148 - 02/18/10 12:59 AM
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Porn Jesus
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**BUT** the brand is still worth far more than the revolving credit facility and the company is far from worthless. Everybody knows the Playboy logo. Everybody.
The fact is that Playboy is a mainstream company with tentacles in publishing, adult DTC video, vod, ppv, cable network programming, interactive, apparel, jewelry, housewares and casinos. There isn't one other adult enterprise that wouldn't want to be as big a monstrosity as Playboy.
Brand recognition is valuable, but only as a sales lever. Playboy hasn't developed any other good revenue streams. Strip clubs is a good idea - although they used to do this years ago and I'd want to see why it failed. A "Club Med" style resort destination might be another.
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The reality is that there is a critical tipping point in the life of a startup: when the founder yields control to professional management.
Ken Lay learned this the hard way too...
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Hefner being sued - TMZ
Great quote - "Today, the price of a Playboy magazine is far higher than the price of Playboy common stock." In 1999, the stock sold for $36 a share. Today Playboy closed at $3.14. The magazine sells for $5.99"
That lawsuit has 0% chance of winning. The catch is that Playboy can't recover their legal costs when they win.
The one thing the lawyers suing Playboy do NOT want to happen is for the case to go to trial - that's the worst possible result for them. They'll guess at how much a victory will cost Playboy and offer to settle for less.
If Playboy contests the suit they'll spend real $$$ to win and the lawyers suing will be out only a few hours time but no cash (losers don't pay winner's legal fees). So Playboy probably pays a settlement fee in spite of knowing they're certain to win at trial, because the lawyers suing make sure it's it's cheaper to lose than win.
(most people think it's cheaper to win and that a loss is expensive. But plaintiff's lawyers know that if they make sure it's cheaper for the victim to lose that most companies will go for the cheapest result and lose, which is a win for plaintiff's lawyers. That's the advantage of a loser-pays-winner's-cost system - it means it's cheaper to win than lose and plaintiff's won't file suits unless they can win on the merits)
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#420149 - 02/18/10 07:35 AM
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When I was in college my business professor told us a good story about companies avoiding litigation by settling. There was a guy in jail that would write companies whose stocks had recently gone down in price and tell them that he had lost X dollars (usually 5-10k) and that he was going to sue because their poor management was the reason for the loss. He had 40-50k in his account before a company decided to pay their lawyers to fight him and showed that he was a fraud.
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#420150 - 02/21/10 08:03 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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The Club Jenna purchase was a disaster and their inhouse web ventures have done just as bad. The company that did their web marketing fucked them big time by giving pretty much all of their archived pay webcontent (cyberclub) for free. Christie was too late to the party as far as getting into the hardcore part of the industry.
The bunny itself is the most marketable part of the brand now. However even that has lost much of its luster due to the fact that they put the damn logo on anything and everything you could possibly imagine.
As far as the magazine goes, MAXIM/STUFF/FHM cut into their sales. Even with STUFF/FHM gone, they never recovered. Seven years ago they brought in a former MAXIM editor to head the magazine, it was a disaster. A lot of their loyal readers jumped ship within the last 10 years because of the shitty Z list celeb pictorials. A lot of them also started to bail when Hef started putting is lookalike girlfriends or girls that looked like them in the magazine on regular basis. A lot of the feedback was negative, and they did try and change it, but the damage had been done.
That being said, they got it right with who they just picked for Playmate of the Year.
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#420151 - 02/22/10 10:32 PM
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The bunny itself is the most marketable part of the brand now. However even that has lost much of its luster due to the fact that they put the damn logo on anything and everything you could possibly imagine.
oversaturation of any branded logo almost always typically spells disaster quite quickly.... 
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#420152 - 02/22/10 10:54 PM
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If they, as rumored, give a seven figure amount to Heidi Montag for another lame pictorial like her last one it will be close to all over.
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