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#406076 - 03/10/09 04:11 PM Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Willie D Offline

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Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 9181
You can read the full interview at http://adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=33312

With this stupid bitch, things always boil down to one, solitary throwaway line. This week, the whore says, "I am the new breed."

"New breed" of porno performers? I don't really know what that means, unless it's a reference to the two weeks she spent in the hospital with a major case of anal warts. Or that she stayed off the heroin long enough in high school to remember a few lines from Sartre, allowing herself to claim to be some uber-existentialist. Maybe she'll end up inking herself up like Joanna Angel, another delusional alt.whore.

There are no such things as porno whores who became "mainstream" actresses. Marilyn Chambers found this out. Ginger Lynn found this out, so did Traci Lords. Soon Sasha Grey will learn the same thing.

And what a stretch--she plays a hooker. Stormy Daniels does the same thing, going around claiming she's a "mainstream" actress because she appeared in two films, one where she plays a porno whore, and another where she plays a stripper. I bet that's the kind of acting range that just makes Meryl Streep green with envy.

Oh and if you're interested, read the extremely lukewarm reviews of the whore's performance at IMDB, where it was described thusly, "There has been a lot of talk about the lead actress. Yes she is a porn star, and her acting verifies this...."

Check IAFD, she gets her ass pounded about 1/3 of the time. If she's too stupid to realize this kind of "performance art" limits her to the sweaty warehouses of Chatsworth and Canoga Park, then just sit back and watch the delusions roll over her for the next three or four years, when people stop hiring her, and a personal reality terrifingly sets over her:

"ZOMG, maybe it wasn't such a good idea to get into porno!!!!"

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#406077 - 03/10/09 04:47 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Dick Dastardly Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 4470
No, no, no Willie, the anal warts would suggest "I have the new breed!"

Her grammar is just a lil' fucked up, that's all. Copious amount of Vicodin from all those butthole exercises will do that to a whore.
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#406078 - 03/10/09 05:12 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
tattypatty Offline
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Registered: 01/30/08
Posts: 7598
Loc: a site known for its tolerance...
I always smile when people criticize somebody's grammar and spell it as 'grammer'....
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#406080 - 03/10/09 05:31 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
*L*G* Offline
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Registered: 06/05/05
Posts: 4468
Loc: Great America
well is the new breed...of stupid porn "arty fartsy" hipster whores: ashley blue, kimberly kane, sasha grey, belladonna....bleh just idiots.

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#406081 - 03/10/09 05:36 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Dick Dastardly Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 4470
Quote:

I always smile when people criticize somebody's grammar and spell it as 'grammer'....




None of us are literary geniuses here, and it would help if the spell check weren't expired.
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#406082 - 03/10/09 06:56 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
turningblue Offline
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Registered: 04/24/08
Posts: 388
Loc: Virginia
So she can give a look like The Rock from the WWE with her eyebrow and all of a sudden she is the "New Breed." Give me a break.
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#406083 - 03/10/09 07:47 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Willie D Offline

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Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 9181
I'm waiting for one of you degenerates to do a photoshop of a Rice-Krispie treat superimposed on her anus...

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#406084 - 03/10/09 07:57 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
RenfieldGyps Offline
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Registered: 12/28/05
Posts: 4726
Loc: The City That Never Sleeps, Tr...
New breed, god did the mix another 2 sets of dogs?

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#406085 - 03/10/09 08:32 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
pinupmutant Offline
Bukkake Boy

Registered: 06/13/06
Posts: 611
I dunno, I kind of like the "Fascinator" song that's on her Myspace page.


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#406086 - 03/10/09 08:55 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
gonzo420 Offline
AC Cream Wannabe

Registered: 12/02/05
Posts: 458
Loc: the ATL
Quote:

Quote:

I always smile when people criticize somebody's grammar and spell it as 'grammer'....




None of us are literary geniuses here, and it would help if the spell check weren't expired.




It would help if you weren't a stupid fucktard, but hey?

Same old ERIC IFAG making ignorant comments. D D D Do you you know how to spell? Grammer??
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#406087 - 03/10/09 08:59 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Dick Dastardly Offline
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Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 4470
Hey window licker, how's the ass-kissing foamer board doing?

Better a stupid fucktard than a lowly, drooling, stuttering fanboi (that can't spell 'grammar' himself).



EDIT: to add "stuttering"


Edited by Eric IAFD (03/10/09 09:00 PM)
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#406088 - 03/10/09 10:36 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Willie D Offline

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Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 9181
Here's "Performance Art." A dumb cunt from Valley getting abused to within a few feet of her life by a bunch of halfway house wart-spreaders. Cheers, you disgusting quim.



Someone please give me a caption for that look on her face.


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#406089 - 03/10/09 10:37 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Bill Hicks Offline
Bukkake Boy

Registered: 04/01/07
Posts: 717
Loc: Off the mortal coil
Quote:

She talks about industrial music, isn't that like a sound track of grinding gears?




Depends. It can occasionally be good (see: kidneythieves.

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#406090 - 03/10/09 10:46 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Willie D Offline

Porn Jesus

Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 9181
Bwaaaaaahahahaha...she had to suck off Rod Fontana AND Dick Nasty in one scene.



Whooeeeeeeee, someone call Steven Sodomyberg and give him the good news: his life as a director is OVER: he flipped his wig, jumped the shark, gave up the ghost, whatever. He bet his retirement on Sasha Grey and he LOST.

I might just go jack off onto a picture of Sasha and mail it to her for pure fun.



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#406091 - 03/10/09 11:54 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
electrostatic Offline
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Registered: 08/16/08
Posts: 4257
Loc: Counting Kisses
I can't stand that fucking bitch!
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#406092 - 03/11/09 01:48 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
BlackPanther Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 10/05/08
Posts: 176
Quote:

I'm waiting for one of you degenerates to do a photoshop of a Rice-Krispie treat superimposed on her anus...




ok then


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#406093 - 03/11/09 02:24 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
tattypatty Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 01/30/08
Posts: 7598
Loc: a site known for its tolerance...
Quote:

Bwaaaaaahahahaha...she had to suck off Rod Fontana AND Dick Nasty in one scene.



Whooeeeeeeee, someone call Steven Sodomyberg and give him the good news: his life as a director is OVER: he flipped his wig, jumped the shark, gave up the ghost, whatever. He bet his retirement on Sasha Grey and he LOST.

I might just go jack off onto a picture of Sasha and mail it to her for pure fun.






I just threw up in my mouth.
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#406094 - 03/11/09 04:36 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
electrostatic Offline
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Registered: 08/16/08
Posts: 4257
Loc: Counting Kisses
Quote:

Quote:

Bwaaaaaahahahaha...she had to suck off Rod Fontana AND Dick Nasty in one scene. Whooeeeeeeee, someone call Steven Sodomyberg and give him the good news: his life as a director is OVER: he flipped his wig, jumped the shark, gave up the ghost, whatever. He bet his retirement on Sasha Grey and he LOST. I might just go jack off onto a picture of Sasha and mail it to her for pure fun.


I just threw up in my mouth.


OMG Mee too look at his hideous shoes!
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#406095 - 03/11/09 05:32 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
TonyMalice Offline
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I think Sasha meant that she's the new breeding ground.
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#406096 - 03/11/09 06:28 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
inebriated kiwi Offline
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Registered: 12/25/08
Posts: 843
Loc: Sydney Australia
Who gives a fuck what Sasha Grey has to say.

She'll be gone and forgotten in a few years time with some new airhead taking her place giving pretentious interviews...and I won't give a fuck then either.

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#406097 - 03/11/09 06:43 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
charin Offline
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Registered: 07/15/05
Posts: 5290
Loc: Dayton
I like to watch Sasha Grey suck dicks.

That is all.

-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
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#406098 - 03/11/09 08:22 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
99% Fiction Offline
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Registered: 12/16/08
Posts: 2401
I'm almost starting to think of her "I'm smarter than everyone" attitude is turning me on more. Makes me want to rough her around and have some abusive/degrading sex with her. Let her really know she is nothing more than a life support system for a twat.
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#406099 - 03/11/09 10:03 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
freestylah Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 12/28/07
Posts: 4856
Loc: The 4th International
Quote:

Bwaaaaaahahahaha...she had to suck off Rod Fontana AND Dick Nasty in one scene.





She ain't the only one .........






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#406100 - 03/11/09 10:57 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Dick Dastardly Offline
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Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 4470
Quote:

Bwaaaaaahahahaha...she had to suck off Rod Fontana AND Dick Nasty in one scene.




...all while having $1 bills thrown at her like a cheap stripper.

Quote:

She ain't the only one .........






No, but at least she has (was worth? questionable) $20's.
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#406101 - 03/11/09 12:30 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
JRV Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
Quote:

I'm almost starting to think of her "I'm smarter than everyone" attitude is turning me on more.



Think of who she's around in porn - performers, directors etc. How hard can it be to be the smartest one in the room in that crowd?
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#406102 - 03/11/09 01:01 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Bluecipher Offline
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Registered: 06/09/03
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Weren't Rod Fontana and Dick Nasty using Frankilns before the TARP program hit?
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#406103 - 03/11/09 01:17 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Dick Dastardly Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 4470
TARP = Tuition Assistance Reimbursement Program?

Whores actually have a use for higher learning?
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#406104 - 03/11/09 03:30 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
BIFF™ Offline
Sex Slave Trader

Registered: 11/14/04
Posts: 1460
Loc: Down there
Quote:

She ain't the only one .........









You only wish you could get a whore half that hot, euro trash fag.
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#406105 - 03/11/09 06:03 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
*L*G* Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 06/05/05
Posts: 4468
Loc: Great America
Quote:

I like to watch Sasha Grey suck dicks.

That is all.

-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy




i only like her bubble butt (no her asshole yuk!! )

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#406106 - 03/11/09 06:16 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
LouCypher Offline
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Porn Jesus

Registered: 10/19/06
Posts: 9958
Loc: fortified
Not a fan of the snap crackle and pop huh El G?.
I hear ya..

Like Chuck says she can really suck...
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#406107 - 03/11/09 07:38 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
RenfieldGyps Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 12/28/05
Posts: 4726
Loc: The City That Never Sleeps, Tr...
Black Panther, that was very well done.
So gross though , I really dont see what it is that they love about her.

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#406108 - 03/11/09 09:48 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Willie D Offline

Porn Jesus

Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 9181
Quote:

Quote:

I'm waiting for one of you degenerates to do a photoshop of a Rice-Krispie treat superimposed on her anus...




ok then


Double or nothing if you can add some more arm hair to this whore...she looks like a Brazillian rainforest.

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#406109 - 03/11/09 10:58 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Dean Wormer Offline
Pervert

Registered: 08/05/05
Posts: 2116
Loc: Faber College
Sasha's all natural and no tattoos. That's a passing grade in my book even if she comes off a bit pretentious.
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#406110 - 03/11/09 11:08 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
BlackPanther Offline
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Registered: 10/05/08
Posts: 176




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#406111 - 03/12/09 08:36 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
backdoorman Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 09/01/08
Posts: 9782
Loc: Hillbilly Holler
damn you eyes !
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#406112 - 03/12/09 09:58 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
electrostatic Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/16/08
Posts: 4257
Loc: Counting Kisses
Quote:

Sasha's all natural and no tattoos. That's a passing grade in my book even if she comes off a bit pretentious.


Me too! Guess what?... I can read tooo! Awesome. I must be the newest breed. Or not since I haven't sucked off Dick Nasty, I'm not ass cool. So much for a passing grade...
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#406113 - 03/12/09 08:41 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Dick Dastardly Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 4470
^ Admission of failure is a good start.
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#406114 - 03/12/09 09:48 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
electrostatic Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/16/08
Posts: 4257
Loc: Counting Kisses
Ah fuck that. The day I HAVE TO suck cock for money out of necessity rather than pleasure is the day I fail. Till then I'm pretty fuckin more than cut out for "the passing grade". You wont be seeing my uneducated ass quoting/misquoting "existential" nonsense for the sake of belonging to 'the ew breed'. I would rather look dumb as is, than look dumb trying too hard not to look dumb. And if that makes me gay then I guess I am...
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#406115 - 03/12/09 09:55 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
electrostatic Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/16/08
Posts: 4257
Loc: Counting Kisses
^^^ That was fucking dumb!!!! Smooth move x-lax...
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#406116 - 03/12/09 10:36 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Dean Wormer Offline
Pervert

Registered: 08/05/05
Posts: 2116
Loc: Faber College
Quote:

Quote:

Sasha's all natural and no tattoos. That's a passing grade in my book even if she comes off a bit pretentious.


Me too! Guess what?... I can read tooo! Awesome. I must be the newest breed. Or not since I haven't sucked off Dick Nasty, I'm not ass cool. So much for a passing grade...




Show us your tits or it's not true.
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#406117 - 03/12/09 11:14 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
electrostatic Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/16/08
Posts: 4257
Loc: Counting Kisses
Oh it's not true AND I'm the biggest sack of shit LIAR in the world....
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#406118 - 03/13/09 03:26 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Willie D Offline

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Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 9181
Leave some comments for the L.A. Times on how culturally significant a whore can be, when she's busy getting assfucked by sweaty negro convicts in a Chatsworth warehouse:

http://vegasblog.latimes.com/vegas/2009/03/interview-sasha.html?cid=151214857#comments

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#406119 - 03/13/09 04:13 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Soopergrizz Offline
Porn Fucking Master

Registered: 02/23/05
Posts: 3724
Loc: Paddling my canoe in the wild
Quote:

Leave some comments for the L.A. Times on how culturally significant a whore can be, when she's busy getting assfucked by sweaty negro convicts in a Chatsworth warehouse:

http://vegasblog.latimes.com/vegas/2009/03/interview-sasha.html?cid=151214857#comments




I couldn't get past the paragraph riddled with grammatical errors:

Quote:

Sasha Grey overnight has become perhaps the biggest crossover name in adult at this time. Seemingly out of nowhere Grey made Tera Patrick yesterday's news.




Don't they have copy editors?
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#406120 - 03/13/09 11:12 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Dean Wormer Offline
Pervert

Registered: 08/05/05
Posts: 2116
Loc: Faber College
Quote:

Quote:

Leave some comments for the L.A. Times on how culturally significant a whore can be, when she's busy getting assfucked by sweaty negro convicts in a Chatsworth warehouse:

http://vegasblog.latimes.com/vegas/2009/03/interview-sasha.html?cid=151214857#comments




I couldn't get past the paragraph riddled with grammatical errors:

Quote:

Sasha Grey overnight has become perhaps the biggest crossover name in adult at this time. Seemingly out of nowhere Grey made Tera Patrick yesterday's news.




Don't they have copy editors?




LA Times is part of the bankrupt Tribune Company. They have copy editors but the ones they have left are the bottom of the barrel. Either that or they are just mailing it in.
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#406121 - 03/14/09 10:28 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Gunker Offline
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Registered: 01/07/06
Posts: 4268
Loc: Portland
Sasha turns 21 tonight.

http://fleshbot.com/5164958/happy-21st-birthday-sasha-grey

158 movies (according to iafd.com), 58 of which involves anal, so now, can legally buy a beer....

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#406122 - 03/14/09 11:46 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Holly Randall Offline
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Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 1946
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If this means there will be more girls like Sasha Grey in the industry, that's a good thing. If there are more girls who are beautiful, articulate, professional, on time, off drugs, and fuck like champ on camera, then I'm all for it. Despite how pretentious and full of herself everyone seems to think Sasha is, that girl's attitude hasn't changed since the day she entered the industry. I have worked with a lot of big name girls when they were just brand new with no name, and I've seen most of these girls egos blow up beyond control. Sasha is just as polite and well-mannered now as she was at the beginning.

I think that by attacking her for calling herself "The New Breed", you are taking what she said out of context. Sasha means that she represents the porn star anti-stereotype: she's not dumb, she's not on drugs, she was not abused (yes you can call her a liar all you want but for the sake of argument I have decided to believe her), and she wants to push the limits of society's view on female sexuality. It's easy to jump on the anti-Sasha bandwagon because her intelligence and unapologetic self-confidence makes people uncomfortable. Porn stars aren't supposed to be smart, they're not supposed to have self esteem, and they're not supposed to be comfortable with what they do for a living. If someone like Sasha-- someone smart enough and driven enough to be doing something else (i.e. something more socially acceptable than porn), chooses porn, then what does that say about women? Could it possibly suggest that we are not all victims forced into this industry by unhappy circumstance? Could some of us actually truly enjoy having sex on camera? Could it suggest that... (gasp!) women are capable of making their own rational decisions that are driven by personal preference rather than the need for a quick buck to pay their drug dealer or for a lavish lifestyle they could otherwise never achieve?

Now personally I wouldn't call most porn performance art, but I respect Sasha's attempt to intellectualize her work. I think that people underestimate Sasha's importance in changing what people generally think about women in the adult industry. It's actually kind of sad that instead of celebrating a positive figure such as Sasha, that we instead prefer to cannibalize our own. But then again, this is XPT.
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#406124 - 03/15/09 12:20 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
electrostatic Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/16/08
Posts: 4257
Loc: Counting Kisses
Quote:

she's not on drugs


She might actually be a good actress. "You know your own", well, at least I do. If you get what I mean...
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#406125 - 03/15/09 11:38 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
tattypatty Offline
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Registered: 01/30/08
Posts: 7598
Loc: a site known for its tolerance...
Quote:

Sasha turns 21 tonight.

http://fleshbot.com/5164958/happy-21st-birthday-sasha-grey

158 movies (according to iafd.com), 58 of which involves anal, so now, can legally buy a beer....








That 21 rule always makes me chuckle. Oh, America, you silly goose!
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#406126 - 03/15/09 12:54 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Bread" [fixed]
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Maybe she had a raging yeast infection and really said this ^
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#406127 - 03/15/09 12:59 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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you are taking what she said out of context. Sasha means that she represents the porn star anti-stereotype: she's not dumb, she's not on drugs, she was not abused (yes you can call her a liar all you want but for the sake of argument I have decided to believe her), and she wants to push the limits of society's view on female sexuality.


I'm calling you on this, because I demand proof.

1. She has a high school education. Running around trying to convince people you are some advanced existential thinker just makes her "attempt to intellectualize" being a dirty whore all the more pretentious and disingenuous. Would she continue to do porn if her rates got dropped in half? I didn't think so.

2. I highly doubt that she is trying to advance the cause of female sexuality. Name one thing she has done in her porno "career" that is groundbreaking? Some interviews? Appear in non-porno films? Marilyn Chambers did that in the 1980s. So did Ginger Lynn. Heck, Stormy Daniels is two-up on this whore. Have you been reading the mostly negative reviews of her acting "skills?" Her reach exceeds her grasp.

3. Holly, I think you fail to take into account the "freak show" factor a whore like this projects when interviewed by someone other than Tony Buttfuck or Duke Floored. The interviewer muct have some sense of incredulity at what the whore has done in her lifetime. Seriously, what 18-year old girl who decides she'd rather get fucked in the HersheyHole by Brian Pumper rather than try and build on her beginner-level intellect? If she's so smart, she could have easily gotten into UCLA and you could even have suggested which English classes to take (you did take a crticism class from J. Hillis Miller, didn't you???)

4. Not to mention that producers probably don't give a shit about her extending the boundaries of female sexuality. They just care that she shows up on time, has a clean bunghole, and doesn't mind a little jizz in her eye.

I don't deny there's a group of "sex-positive" women in porno who don't just drift into an abyss--Puma Swede, Alana Evans, Austin Kincaid, Aria Giovanni, heck your girl Aimee seemed to acquit herself well. If SashaWhore wants to do all that stuff you said, fine. Unfortunately, the joke is probably on her.

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#406128 - 03/15/09 03:54 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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hey willie you big mouth...come and check a sasha grey "happening"

http://www.xvideos.com/video38305/gangbang_oral_creampie_sasha_grey



you now she is not a porn whore.. she is an "artist"

i bet that you ask her what is the white cube from UK and she doesn't know a shit about it

hipsters

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#406129 - 03/15/09 04:47 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
freestylah Offline
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...her intelligence ...




Where did you get this idea? Oh, maybe she has a few degrees like that imbecile posting in AWOP.


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...but I respect Sasha's attempt to intellectualize her work.




I respect the attempt as well. Unfortunately, she fails miserably.
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#406130 - 03/15/09 06:19 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Why the fuck does it matter if a whore is smart or not? It's not like it's going to affect the way her cunt or asshole stays tight. Who the fuck really cares if she's got a 4.0 GPA if WE ALL know she will take a fucking load to her face the same goddamn way a 1 or 2. pointer would. Needless to say looks do vary AND matter but that's another story.

Personally, I think whore should stick to just being a dirty whore with a dirty whore personality and a dirty whore mentality. Pretty said it best when she said "I dunno I'm a whore not a scientist." Which makes her more likeable, she sticks to what she does best and doesn't try to one-up it for the sake of more attention and/or "controversy". It's kind of like when an actor tries to have a music carer but FAILS miserably. Or vice versa.

The drug thing is also another story. Drugs and porn mixed is a recipe for disaster with all the diseases and shit. I don't know is Sasha Ghey is on drugs but I think she looks like she is.

This stupid slut had a hidden agenda from the start. To be the SMARTEST porn whore in the history of porn. Like Tracy Lords is to being one of the first to crossover to mainstream (That I know of.) or whatever. But much like musician/actor, she FAILED miserably.

I always say, ALL cunts have ALWAYS have a hidden agenda, and that's usually where we hide it...


*** Note: I'm extremely tired this will probably make no sense later or now to all of you. I just had to vent because I FUCKING DESPISE stupid cunts like these. Girls I used to go to school with and tried to act like they were the smartest slutty girls around. Fuck a bunch of guys then get rumors spread about them. Pretend like they don't care and then put their foot in their mouth all while usually being in denial of something and TRYING to sound smart. (I am the new breed" type shit.) :rollseyes: It's worser than the "playing dumb to be cute act". I can honestly say I have more respect for Paris Hilton than Sadsha Ghey.

The End.
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#406131 - 03/15/09 06:47 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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I lovehate Sasha Grey. I love that she's smart and multidimensional (more on that later). I love her look. I hate the solipsism and pretentiousness. I hate the over-the-top, exaggerated performances.

Yes, I do think she's smart. She's had an intuitive sense of branding and has delivered on her brand from the tender age of 18. She identified a niche market and exploited it (fanbois who need to rationalize the desire to debase women). She's articulate. She has a broad range of outside interests. She's a hard worker and is by all accounts a consummate professional.

That said, maybe she's smoked a little too much of her own dope with the "I want to push the limits of sexuality and give permission to women to yadda yadda yadda". You can do that off-camera, easily. There is nothing in her body of work that hasn't been seen before a million times.

I also can't help but find it a little bit sad that someone with her brains aimed so low. Smart as she is, I'm not sure she fully understands at the age of 21 that her decision to become Sasha Grey will impact her for the rest of her life, and not in a positive way. 200-250k a year, if it's that much, seems to me like a piddly amount to have your choices limited so severely.

The irony (and I know I'm not using irony in the correct sense of the word) is that she would have made a much better high class whore than a porn whore. I think she would have been the rare one who socks her money away while putting herself through grad school and walks away with her privacy intact.






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#406132 - 03/15/09 06:59 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Willie D Offline

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I figured a Barnard girl would try and harken back to Ozymandias...

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock'd them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.



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#406133 - 03/15/09 07:04 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
backdoorman Offline
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I like Sasha.....I like Sasha's ass....I like to watch Sasha get fucked in the ass. 'Nuff said !
p.s. WTF did you say Willie ?????
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#406134 - 03/15/09 08:21 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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#406135 - 03/15/09 10:14 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Why the fuck does it matter if a whore is smart or not? It's not like it's going to affect the way her cunt or asshole





The previous post was made by a tweaker mother of children too young to make decisions for themselves. Every post made by her is time taken away from these poor innocents. She chooses to toss the kids in a playpen, plug in a Sesame Street dvd and post on XPT instead of interacting with her flesh and blood.

Please help the children by ignoring her compulsion to respond vacuously to every thread on the board.

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#406136 - 03/16/09 06:48 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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I don't understand the venom people spew against her...

Her scenes are almost always hot, she is obviously not dumb, and she is pretty fuckin sexy.

I know alot of the posters here are raging misogynists, but why is she such the popular target? Is it because she does't play the broken junkie whore role you guys get off on?
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#406137 - 03/16/09 09:02 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Sasha is a sociopath.Pretty obvious really.
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#406138 - 03/16/09 03:13 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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I don't understand the venom people spew against her...

Her scenes are almost always hot, she is obviously not dumb, and she is pretty fuckin sexy.

I know alot of the posters here are raging misogynists, but why is she such the popular target? Is it because she does't play the broken junkie whore role you guys get off on?




I think it has more to do with her pretentious pseudo-intellectual bullshit than misogyny. If it was just plain misogyny, everyone here would hate Gia and Holly, but they have the distinct advantage of actually being intelligent and not delusional about what they do or have done. They're also pretty fuckin' sexy.

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#406139 - 03/16/09 07:01 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Well at least they published my complaint about the writer.
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#406140 - 03/16/09 07:52 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Quote:

I figured a Barnard girl would try and harken back to Ozymandias...






Nah. I've always hated poetry.

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#406141 - 03/16/09 09:23 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
Willie D Offline

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Phucking beautiful.

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#406142 - 03/16/09 10:36 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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I hope She gave Warts to this Pumpkin Smasher's tiny testicles......fucking Billy Corgan!?!?!?! Courtney LOVE was 3 steps up from this shit.....



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#406143 - 03/16/09 10:46 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Kimberly Kane, trying desperately to assert her existential muscle....Since they no doubt spend what overstated funds they make doing whatever-the-fuck, the caption on this photo should read "They are only one wart away from being BROKE, hungry and out on the street....the vodka is antiseptic for swabbing the affected area, not for drinking."



Seriously, Kimberly Kane never looked worse. what a pretentious pair of delusional whores.....


HEY girls guess what? You take angry puslating pustulent Penii in your asses because you are too fucking lazy and corrupt to do something USEFUL with your lives...Ergo, you deserve NOTHING but contempt, and warts.....lots and lots of WARTS.

Dick Nasty is sitting home right now saying "Blimey, I've buggered both them birds.....where's me Fish & chips coupon?"


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#406144 - 03/17/09 07:27 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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...and Roland Barthes was a faggot.

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#406145 - 03/17/09 11:14 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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There is no happy medium here.

I mean, fans make fun of PWs who are the stereotypical performer i.e. abused, drugs, not to smart.
Then we get a few like Sasha and they STILL make fun of them.

I happen to agree with everything Holly said. I don’t like Sasha’s ostentatious attitude but at least she is trying to be positive and be productive. I’d take that over the A-typical porn star anytime.

One point I do agree on with Willie D. is…. Just because you’re in a mainstream film for less than two minutes playing the role of a stripper or porn star doesn’t make you a mainstream star by any means. I am so sick of porn girls making such a big deal about that. Big deal, you were naked in a mainstream film, it’s not like it was a stretch from what they do anyway.
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#406146 - 03/17/09 03:30 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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This is what's called reverse beer goggles- a woman becomes less attractive when you're sober and she's drunk, and if her name is Kimberly Kane, it may as well be Paula Poundstone.



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#406147 - 03/18/09 12:14 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Quote:

Quote:

you are taking what she said out of context. Sasha means that she represents the porn star anti-stereotype: she's not dumb, she's not on drugs, she was not abused (yes you can call her a liar all you want but for the sake of argument I have decided to believe her), and she wants to push the limits of society's view on female sexuality.


I'm calling you on this, because I demand proof.




First of all, how can I provide proof when what we are discussing are differences of opinion? I cannot "prove" that what I think about Sasha is "right", I can only say what I think, you can disagree with me, and we can agree to disagree and still walk away with much love in our hearts for each other. That being said, I will address some of your points.

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1. She has a high school education. Running around trying to convince people you are some advanced existential thinker just makes her "attempt to intellectualize" being a dirty whore all the more pretentious and disingenuous. Would she continue to do porn if her rates got dropped in half? I didn't think so.




Just because Sasha has a high school education doesn't mean that she is incapable of educating herself. Though I am as proud as the next person for my college degree, what purpose has it really served? I went to school and graduated from UCLA with a degree in World Literature knowing that I was going to spend the rest of my life shooting and producing porn. So what good does my degree do me? Does it make my Xbiz articles more articulate or my debates on XPT more convincing? Or does it just give me permission to wave it in the faces of who don't have a college degree? Sometimes I think it's the latter, though honestly the reason is that every person in my family has a college degree-- in fact I come from a family of mostly teachers, so I couldn't bear not finishing college, even though I knew it wouldn't really make a difference to me career-wise. But don't get me wrong, I am very happy I did go to college, because that was really one of the best times in my life.

As far as her dropping her rates: let's not forget that this is a business. Sasha is in high demand and thus can command a high rate, and should do so. If people will pay it, why not?

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2. I highly doubt that she is trying to advance the cause of female sexuality. Name one thing she has done in her porno "career" that is groundbreaking? Some interviews? Appear in non-porno films? Marilyn Chambers did that in the 1980s. So did Ginger Lynn. Heck, Stormy Daniels is two-up on this whore. Have you been reading the mostly negative reviews of her acting "skills?" Her reach exceeds her grasp.




Sasha doesn't do anything on camera that is new, or groundbreaking. The idea behind Sasha as a advocate for advancing female sexuality is that she DOES these hardcore acts but comes across as someone who does so because it is something she enjoys, something that she might do in her personal life. She does not come across as someone who does gangbangs, double penetration or whatever because she has to. Sasha is a beautiful girl, and we all know that pretty girls in this industry don't have to do the hardcore acts. The extreme scenes are often reserved for girls who couldn't get work otherwise-- thus, they don't really enjoy what they do, and this comes across as sad. Sasha is not a sad character, she is not a victim. She projects power of choice in her actions, and that is important.

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The interviewer muct have some sense of incredulity at what the whore has done in her lifetime. Seriously, what 18-year old girl who decides she'd rather get fucked in the HersheyHole by Brian Pumper rather than try and build on her beginner-level intellect?




Sasha is that type of girl. Again you play here to the socially acceptable. If Sasha chooses porn over college, why does that make her the subject of ridcule to us, the porn consumers and producers? So she didn't follow the fold. We all have different paths, and Sasha's did not include college. Besides, Sasha can always go back to college later-- she is, after all, still quite young.

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4. Not to mention that producers probably don't give a shit about her extending the boundaries of female sexuality. They just care that she shows up on time, has a clean bunghole, and doesn't mind a little jizz in her eye.




I'm not concerned with what the producers think. Most of them don't think about anything beyond their next paycheck anyhow-- they don't give a shit about the talent they make their living off of. I'm concerned with what Sasha makes the "outside" think about the adult industry. I think she's a fairly positive role model.

Look, the thing is, I really like Sasha. I know her personally, and she's not half as pretentious as you guys make her out to be. I consider her a friend and you know how loyal I am to those I care about. I don't really expect anyone to agree with me, but I couldn't watch this thread go on and on about how awful she is without saying anything. That's my two cents, and really that's all I have to say.
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#406148 - 03/18/09 01:55 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Holly has definitely fucked sasha, Its kinda hot to picture holly sticking her tongue where a large group of warts once was, sort of.

Holly, if I wasn't in a wheelchair and we met would you stick your tongue in my ass?
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#406149 - 03/18/09 02:56 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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She seems like a very typical 21-year-old to me, just not the type that does porn. College campuses are full of young hipsters who are just bursting to tell you about things like Nietszche, Jack Kerouac, William Burroughs, Anais Nin - bla bla bla. They have just discovered these things and all of the sudden think they are misunderstood geniuses. It's a phase. The most annoying type for me are the ones that think they're going to be great writers or poets (LOL). They don't realize that they are a dime a dozen and that they are not the first (or even the ten millionth) to have all these poser deep thoughts.


These hipsters always fancy themselves unique. This must be compounded X 1000 for Sasha because she is atypical for porn. Most 21-year-olds in porn are the stripper type. Also, the porn notoriety must be the equivalent of willing 1000 spoken word poetry competitions.
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#406150 - 03/18/09 03:33 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Maybe she meant she's the new "bleed," and she going to start making her own "menstruation porn" videos.

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#406151 - 03/18/09 03:57 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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If I could bang Holly I'd want her to dress up just like the girl on the box of Swiss Miss hot chocolate but I don't know why --desu



Edited by Fiend (03/18/09 04:29 AM)
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#406152 - 03/18/09 04:11 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Weird. I would also like that.
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#406153 - 03/18/09 06:08 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Porn stars aren't supposed to be smart, they're not supposed to have self esteem, and they're not supposed to be comfortable with what they do for a living. If someone like Sasha-- someone smart enough and driven enough to be doing something else (i.e. something more socially acceptable than porn), chooses porn, then what does that say about women? Could it possibly suggest that we are not all victims forced into this industry by unhappy circumstance? Could some of us actually truly enjoy having sex on camera? Could it suggest that... (gasp!) women are capable of making their own rational decisions that are driven by personal preference rather than the need for a quick buck to pay their drug dealer or for a lavish lifestyle they could otherwise never achieve?




While totally possible, I think you miss the obvious. Sasha behaves the way she does not because of her "new breed" state of mind. She behaves the way she does as a means of trying to obtain validation that she "matters." She's insecure in what she does or wouldn't be expending so much effort in attempting to gain validation for her efforts; efforts which basically involve opening up her orifices as amusement parks for our masturbatory pleasure.

Her value to society is simple. She's a whore. She can dabble in acting, philosophy or whatever else floats her boat. But her value, nonetheless, remains that of warm place to shove a cock of six.

More than likely, she realizes this. It disturbs her. So all this noise she generates is a desperate plea for legitimacy in LIFE. Which makes her NO DIFFERENT than most of the other people stuck in dead-end jobs. Well other than the fact she sucks her own feces off of a guys dick for a living. Literally rather than figuratively.


Edited by PainfulAzzFuckin (03/18/09 06:20 AM)
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#406155 - 03/18/09 08:27 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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P.S. this also fits in with Holly wearing the Swiss Miss constume.






Excellent good Sir, I like the way you think --desu

+1 internets for you --desu
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#406156 - 03/18/09 09:43 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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If I could bang Holly I'd want her to dress up just like the girl on the box of Swiss Miss hot chocolate but I don't know why --desu






I dressed up like that for Halloween one year... I only had polaroids though and I think they all disappeared. It was an awesome costume.
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#406157 - 03/18/09 10:50 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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I dressed up like that for Halloween one year... I only had polaroids though and I think they all disappeared. It was an awesome costume.




Still got the costume?? --desu
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#406159 - 03/18/09 12:34 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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#406160 - 03/18/09 01:13 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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For those of you pondering the use of the word "desu" .






I thought it was a shot at Gia (as in "desi")
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#406161 - 03/18/09 04:45 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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If this means there will be more girls like Sasha Grey in the industry, that's a good thing. If there are more girls who are beautiful, articulate, professional, on time, off drugs, and fuck like champ on camera, then I'm all for it. Despite how pretentious and full of herself everyone seems to think Sasha is, that girl's attitude hasn't changed since the day she entered the industry. I have worked with a lot of big name girls when they were just brand new with no name, and I've seen most of these girls egos blow up beyond control. Sasha is just as polite and well-mannered now as she was at the beginning.

I think that by attacking her for calling herself "The New Breed", you are taking what she said out of context. Sasha means that she represents the porn star anti-stereotype: she's not dumb, she's not on drugs, she was not abused (yes you can call her a liar all you want but for the sake of argument I have decided to believe her), and she wants to push the limits of society's view on female sexuality. It's easy to jump on the anti-Sasha bandwagon because her intelligence and unapologetic self-confidence makes people uncomfortable. Porn stars aren't supposed to be smart, they're not supposed to have self esteem, and they're not supposed to be comfortable with what they do for a living. If someone like Sasha-- someone smart enough and driven enough to be doing something else (i.e. something more socially acceptable than porn), chooses porn, then what does that say about women? Could it possibly suggest that we are not all victims forced into this industry by unhappy circumstance? Could some of us actually truly enjoy having sex on camera? Could it suggest that... (gasp!) women are capable of making their own rational decisions that are driven by personal preference rather than the need for a quick buck to pay their drug dealer or for a lavish lifestyle they could otherwise never achieve?

Now personally I wouldn't call most porn performance art, but I respect Sasha's attempt to intellectualize her work. I think that people underestimate Sasha's importance in changing what people generally think about women in the adult industry. It's actually kind of sad that instead of celebrating a positive figure such as Sasha, that we instead prefer to cannibalize our own. But then again, this is XPT.




While I respect you as a professional (and a piece of ass) amongst the industry folk, Holly...yes, this is XPT.

Granted, you'd say the same thing about Bree Olson, and she's just a back water trailer trash whore who allowed the money to ruin her otherwise country girl upbringing. I wouldn't be surprised if her attention-whoring in high school had something to do with her current lifestyle, as I recall she finished out that part of her life in a juvenile detention facility, or something similar.
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#406162 - 03/18/09 06:21 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Bill Hicks wrote:
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I think it has more to do with her pretentious pseudo-intellectual bullshit than misogyny. If it was just plain misogyny, everyone here would hate Gia and Holly, but they have the distinct advantage of actually being intelligent and not delusional about what they do or have done.




Exactly. Case in point, Sasha went to UCLA to "lecture" about the porn industry (like a glorified sex ed class on the day a hooker comes to talk). Then in an interview she said she enjoyed the experience and hoped to go back and "lecture" on philosophy. Right. Why not throw on a white lab coat, infiltrate a hospital and crash a surgery like Leslie Nielsen in a naked gun movie?

Holly's question "what's wrong with PW's that like sex and aren't on drugs?" Nothing, except the few exceptions only prove the rule, and generally speaking it's their preexisting conditions that draw girls to porn like moths to flame. Sasha's claims don't add up. She should visit a porn-friendly shrink, get taken apart like a clock, and see if they don't actually find any busted gears.

If she really is just a flower happily sitting in poison soil, above it all mentally as a lineup of parolees empty their balls on her head, then more power to her. If Holly's right and Sasha isn't really "sad", including her days wandering the Spiegler sty among the walking dead, then I salute her. Unfortunately you can't roll around in the mud with pigs all day and then insist you're not one of them.



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#406163 - 03/18/09 07:22 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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She now has her own apartment w/Ian, she showed it on the show Deeper Throat.
http://worldofwonder.net/productions/deeperthroat/

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#406164 - 03/19/09 01:22 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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http://www.xvideos.com/video38305/gangbang_oral_creampie_sasha_grey




Hey, there's even an appearance by Barnicle Bob!!
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#406165 - 03/19/09 01:51 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Lou and I were discussing existentialism before anyone knew of Sasha Grey.

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#406166 - 03/19/09 02:06 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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You're a good sport Chuck. lol
God bless ya.
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#406167 - 03/19/09 03:24 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Mark, they're all fucking pigs, just some eat from a different trough.
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#406168 - 03/24/09 09:32 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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If I could bang Holly I'd want her to dress up just like the girl on the box of Swiss Miss hot chocolate but I don't know why --desu








I dressed up like that for Halloween one year... I only had polaroids though and I think they all disappeared. It was an awesome costume.




AC Creep or Bono one probably have them. Holly, its not a good idea to let stalkers know where you live. Be more careful baby.
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#406169 - 04/02/09 10:59 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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The New Breed of movie poster..


Shitty tagline.


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#406170 - 04/03/09 07:21 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Or the new breed of cheese grater, take your pick.
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#406171 - 04/03/09 09:29 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
nomore Offline
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Maybe I'm a bitch, maybe I'm just jealous...I do not want this movie to do well...the girl is gorgeous but she's such a fame whore...all of those pics from her bday party with *gag* Billy Corgan and none with her boyfriend? ATTENTION WHORE! Ok, maybe her beau doesn't like to be in public pics but, my god, she posted pics of herself with any pseudo celebrity she can find...Lance Bass?!?!?!?

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#406172 - 04/03/09 11:31 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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I really dislike her. Her personality comes off as totally contrived.
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#406173 - 04/03/09 03:01 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Maybe I'm a bitch, maybe I'm just jealous...I do not want this movie to do well...the girl is gorgeous but she's such a fame whore...all of those pics from her bday party with *gag* Billy Corgan and none with her boyfriend? ATTENTION WHORE! Ok, maybe her beau doesn't like to be in public pics but, my god, she posted pics of herself with any pseudo celebrity she can find...Lance Bass?!?!?!?




Well, you have to wonder about a guy who'd date a pretentious pseudo-alt hipster who's had miles of cock in her ass on film.

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#406174 - 04/03/09 05:22 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Speaking of the boyfriend...
http://adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=33967

Quote:

Ian talks about how, with Grey’s career, he has to schedule sex with the person he’s in love with. But they find ways. It’s mentioned how Grey bruised his butthole during one of those sessions and how Ian felt really gay about it. However if Grey wants to continue in the business for the next ten years, Ian says he supports that.




What...the...fuck?
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#406175 - 04/04/09 03:17 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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still trying to figure out if she's interesting or forced interesting annoying.

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#406176 - 04/07/09 09:15 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Ian talks about how, with Grey’s career, he has to schedule sex with the person he’s in love with.




You can tell this is a very healthy relationship that will flourish for many, many years. Im sure they are very happy together.
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#406177 - 11/15/09 11:50 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Bill Hicks wrote:
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I think it has more to do with her pretentious pseudo-intellectual bullshit than misogyny. If it was just plain misogyny, everyone here would hate Gia and Holly, but they have the distinct advantage of actually being intelligent and not delusional about what they do or have done.




Exactly. Case in point, Sasha went to UCLA to "lecture" about the porn industry (like a glorified sex ed class on the day a hooker comes to talk). Then in an interview she said she enjoyed the experience and hoped to go back and "lecture" on philosophy. Right. Why not throw on a white lab coat, infiltrate a hospital and crash a surgery like Leslie Nielsen in a naked gun movie?

Holly's question "what's wrong with PW's that like sex and aren't on drugs?" Nothing, except the few exceptions only prove the rule, and generally speaking it's their preexisting conditions that draw girls to porn like moths to flame. Sasha's claims don't add up. She should visit a porn-friendly shrink, get taken apart like a clock, and see if they don't actually find any busted gears.

If she really is just a flower happily sitting in poison soil, above it all mentally as a lineup of parolees empty their balls on her head, then more power to her. If Holly's right and Sasha isn't really "sad", including her days wandering the Spiegler sty among the walking dead, then I salute her. Unfortunately you can't roll around in the mud with pigs all day and then insist you're not one of them.







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#406178 - 11/24/09 08:01 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Now she's waxing political on Newsweek's blog:

http://2010.newsweek.com/top-10/sex-scandal-details/mark-sanford-appalachian-adventure.html

"We create our own morals"...uh huh. Guess she put down the Sartre and picked up the Nietzsche.


Edited by pinupmutant (11/24/09 08:03 PM)

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#406179 - 11/24/09 08:21 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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What a ridiculous piece. I wouldn't expect anything less from a person her age who seems to think they have any idea what the fuck is really going on.

At first I was surprised she hadn't posted here. Now I realize she wouldn't dare.
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#406180 - 11/24/09 11:09 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Three thoughts on Sasha and this thread:

1. People project too much.
2. "Viel Feind', viel Ehr'!"
3. Any publicity is good publicity.

Carry on with the carry-on...


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#406181 - 11/24/09 11:24 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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What a bunch of horseshit. And all those idiots who agree with her 'arguments' in the comments are probably allowed to vote...
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#406182 - 11/25/09 01:09 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Hmmm...maybe more like Viele analen Warzen, viel Ehr.

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#406183 - 11/25/09 08:02 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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I dressed up like that for Halloween one year... I only had polaroids though and I think they all disappeared. It was an awesome costume.



Holly , i would like to see you dressed up like this .

http://www.chelseasofnewyork.com/st_pauli_girl_costume_roma_p/1125-0-rbc.htm

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#406184 - 11/25/09 09:18 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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I wonder where supporting a jobless boyfriend fits into Sasha being so smart.
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#406186 - 11/25/09 01:27 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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FWIW:

How does a Playboy shoot compare to a porn shoot?:
“With Playboy you get better hair and makeup. It was a nice change to be using people from the fashion world for that. But really in terms of photography and video, I think the adult industry is further behind than it ever has been. Stylistically we’re in a real rut. We still paint girl’s faces with too much blush and too much foundation and tease their hair and everybody has to overexpose every photo they take and it all looks the same. You could take pictures of me and replace my head with another girl’s and people would never know. There’s a lack of creativity and personal touch. And nobody wants to challenge that idea.”


Is the rut due to uncreative producers or uncreative consumers?:
“I don’t think people always know what they want until it’s given to them. I just create stuff that I would want to see. And I’m trying to get to a point where the only person I’m working for is myself. That’s why I started my own company. We’ve finished several movies now. The fifth is my favorite. It’s called Cold, Black Water and comes out in November.”


Do you consider yourself a feminist?:
“Yes and no. I feel like the term “feminist” has become so watered down that it’s almost become meaningless.”


You seem like a different kind of porn star than people are used to.:
“I’d like to believe that I evoke a different idea of what an adult star is supposed to be. I think society is often uneasy with young women who present both their sexuality and intellect. In one respect I am happy to have the ability to shine a positive light on our sexual freedom, but most female celebrities who are considered sex symbols aren’t thought of as strong individuals intellectually. Men like Matt Damon and George Clooney are thought of as both. I would like to see that shift.”


SOURCE




At least this is true: "society is often uneasy with young women who present both their sexuality and intellect."

NO IDEA how it applies to Her Pretentiousness, though.




Rant ON, deluded, teen prima donna! Rant ON!!

I need the giggles.
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#406187 - 11/25/09 09:43 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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I feel like the term “existentialist” has become so watered down that it’s almost become meaningless.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to SG's book, 'cause it will teach me that it's ok to be a sexual being. I've never had the will or intellectual curiousity to check out Erica Jong or Anais Nin or any of the many others who predate SG by decades and weren't 1/10 the pompous twit.

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#406188 - 11/25/09 10:51 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Actually, in the first page of Playboy (not so much a TOC because it extends over 3 pages), Sasha was referred to as a "crossover star."

Didn't say what she had crossed over from...no "hint" that she was perfectly willing to get fucked in the ass...which was quite a departure for Playboy as NO Playboy Centerfold enjoys anal sex and/or any sex that would involve some kind of extended penetration, because, don't you know, a Playboy model is SO ATTRACTIVE, a pathetic male is guaranteed to come within 1-3 minutes....

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#406189 - 11/26/09 01:02 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Quote:

Hmmm...maybe more like Viele analen Warzen, viel Ehr.




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#406190 - 11/26/09 01:15 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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But really in terms of photography and video, I think the adult industry is further behind than it ever has been. Stylistically we’re in a real rut. We still paint girl’s faces with too much blush and too much foundation and tease their hair and everybody has to overexpose every photo they take and it all looks the same.





A little overstated but I don't see much here to disagree with at least.

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#406191 - 11/26/09 05:43 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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..which was quite a departure for Playboy as NO Playboy Centerfold enjoys anal sex and/or any sex that would involve some kind of extended penetration




This would explain why they all end up fucking Hefner sometime or another.
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#406192 - 11/26/09 06:56 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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How on earth did she get this spot on Newsweek!
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#406194 - 11/27/09 07:00 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Quote:

How on earth did she get this spot on Newsweek!



The amount of jealousy Grey inspires is telling of why the porn industry is such a rut. Instead of celebrating or emulating success (see: Silicon Valley) it tries to tear down or squelch any success.
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#406195 - 11/27/09 11:30 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Quote:

Quote:

How on earth did she get this spot on Newsweek!



The amount of jealousy Grey inspires is telling of why the porn industry is such a rut. Instead of celebrating or emulating success (see: Silicon Valley) it tries to tear down or squelch any success.




You see jealousy; I see bewilderment.

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#406196 - 11/27/09 04:41 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Here is a 5 minute interview Sasha did with FHM. She sounds bright, funny and comes off well. You'll probably hate it.

http://www.fhm.com/girls/sasha-grey---pornstar----meets-fhm-lucky-he
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#406197 - 11/27/09 08:08 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

How on earth did she get this spot on Newsweek!



The amount of jealousy Grey inspires is telling of why the porn industry is such a rut. Instead of celebrating or emulating success (see: Silicon Valley) it tries to tear down or squelch any success.




You see jealousy; I see bewilderment.




Desperate flaying by the magazine's editor hoping to sell a few more issues...

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#406198 - 11/30/09 07:55 AM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Quote:


Desperate flaying by the magazine's editor hoping to sell a few more issues...






Hence all the Obama covers, this year, and the Palin cover last week. Print media in this country is on the way out.

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#406199 - 12/09/09 09:15 PM Re: Sasha Grey: I'm the "New Breed"
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Quote:

Erica Jong or Anais Nin or any of the many others who predate SG by decades and weren't 1/10 the pompous twit.




Don't underestimate Jong or Nin. They rank well as pompous twits.
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#406200 - 12/11/09 02:51 PM She becomed a huge star...
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le nouveau film du régisseur Rick Raclette avec Sasha Grey

le trailer est <ici>


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#406201 - 12/11/09 04:55 PM Re: She becomed a huge star...
Uomo Grassissimo!! Offline
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Sasha's Band's MySpace:

<<CLICKY!! YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!>>
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#406202 - 12/11/09 05:11 PM Re: She becomed a huge star...
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Sasha's Band's MySpace:

<<CLICKY!! YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!>>





link doesn't work - please use http://tinyurl.com/atelecine in the future

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#406203 - 12/11/09 05:26 PM Re: She becomed a huge star...
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Link works fine for me.


Yours on the other hand ....


Why don't you want them to go to MySpace?
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#406204 - 12/16/09 02:31 PM Re: She becomed a huge star...
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That first track sounds like someone trying to tune a guitar.
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