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Girls watch out for these scammers in NYC!!!!!
#93184 - 05/03/05 11:21 AM
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http://www.sexalotnyc.com/intro%20page.htm
I know at LEAST 4 girls on that site that these guys flew in....paid the girls with a cashiers check, and the check was bad. AND they are using the girls fucking real names. They need to go down and believe me, I am working on it now.
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That site doesn't get along with firefox, either. Isn't that the studio Garfield shot with?
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I have no idea who they are but they have been giving bogus cashiers checks since 2002 at least.
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If they have fake cashiers checks, do they have fake std tests too?
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Thanks for the heads up Robert. I was going to be working with these guys later this month, I dont think I will be now! Thanks:)
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I´m glad Hailey didn´t do this trip to NYC. These dudes must be stopped! Robert, I´m glad that you will work on this. Hailey is a great new talent and she don´t deserve to meet assholes like them. 
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Thanks Robert. I'll move this to the Talent For Hire at some point.
Hailey: it might a good idea to post a query "Anyone know these guys?" before shooting with someone the first time.
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jrv, please change your avatar. It gives me the creeps.
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I think its great when industry message boards are used like this to weed out the scumbags.
Just a reminder, if the check bounces then the model release is no good. You should notify anyone distrubuting the videos these guys made that they dont have valid model release forms. No distributor in their right mind is going to sell anything that has invalid model release forms.
ROBERTF, you're obviously an industry insider, what do youthink about notifying distributors of content that does not have valid model releases?
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Just a reminder, if the check bounces then the model release is no good.
That's probably not true.
You could write in the line "This release is effective upon receipt of payment for work performed" or some such and then the model release is only effective once the check is good. But without something like that the model release is not related to the check at all.
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wow fake checks and possible fake aids and std tests...... 
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The link locks up Safari pretty bad. DO NOT CLICK ON THE LINK!
If I see these assholes on my block, I feel like ama hurt them! 
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jrv, you might be right. I wonder if anybody here could post a link to an actual model release. I'm sure each company may have slightly different wording on their forms.My limited buissness experience has always taught me that any contract is contigent on payment.
Any time you have two seperate contracts for the same "JOB" and only one contract contains the "PAYMENT AGREEMENT" that P.A.(payment agreement) is automatically interpeted to cover both contracts.
I'll bet alot of these scumbags producers will try to tell the naive newbie that the model release is seperate and has nothing to do with the payment agreement they signed seperately. California law says otherwise. Multiple contracts for the same job are always considered as "WHOLE AGREEMENTS" when considering "RENUMERATION"(that is payment).
As far as fake tests go, that is a felony in every state. It is actally more than one felony. To falsify a medical document for the purpose of employment is a felony. To produce for any individual a medical document that is known to be fabricated, with the intent of misleading that individual is a felony. The mere production of a false medical document is also a felony.
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Curious point....If your check to the whore bounces, is it Rape? 
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Curious point....If your check to the whore bounces, is it Rape?
Thanks for the laugh!
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You werent going anywhere but the clinic to get that "problem" cleared up!
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I just wanted to say that this company also issued me a fraudulent check and that I am pursuing this matter. If anyone has any helpful advice or stories, I'd appreciate it.
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Isnt that one of the reasons why porn girls go to "agents' in the first place so they dont get abused/cheated/etc, etc by fly by night operators.
Just an idea.....when you have been in the biz for awhile and someone new pops up there not always skumbags....but do your research.
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Thanks Robert. I'll move this to the Talent For Hire at some point.
Hailey: it might a good idea to post a query "Anyone know these guys?" before shooting with someone the first time.
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I know that this board and adultfyi often offer information, but where else can one look for this information, besides asking for references?
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i always thought you girls got paid upfront...in cash. it would be a wise protocal... if your going to get fucked on video and humiliated for the rest of your lives...get the cash first.geeeeez
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