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Most people need to feel outraged about something. If you don't feel outraged about something important, you will get upset about something trivial. That pornographers are getting so outraged over the animal killing of SexyOutdoorSports, it primarily shows that their moral compasses are broken. There are many things in the industry worthy of more indignation than this.
For porn girls in particular, excessive attachment to animals (and animal rights activism) is a way to assuage the basic female need to nurture which is healthfully satisfied by having children.
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i eat meat but i've got to be honest that i don't like people who kill animals just for the sake of killing animals. if your not going to eat it or its not going to kill you then leave it alone. It does seem strange that this is getting more attention then the girl who got snuffed out a few months ago did.
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i thought it was garbage simply because those weren't cape buffs that kill hunters, they were basically oxen or dairy cows. i'm outraged we need to import them from the asiatics and at how totally divergent our species is. you've got some people who are really getting close to "people version 2.0" and then you've got complete dullards who will do bestial, prideless acts for the same amount of money as it costs for 2-4 people to eat at an exceptional restaurant ordering cheap wine.
porn people are weird--i'm convinced it's they view animal-rights as their only chance at showing they have some moral compass. they've blown their credibility with humans, animals may be smarter than nacho, but probably don't look at the rest of them as totally subhuman. for some porn chicks, animals may be the only thing with a hearbeat and warm blood that doesn't try to hurt, manipulate or take advantage of them. or it could be a coverup for becoming addicted to sex with german shepards, since we know most of them have done an internet scene with one from the spam headers we get.
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i thought it was garbage simply because those weren't cape buffs that kill hunters, they were basically oxen or dairy cows. i'm outraged we need to import them from the asiatics and at how totally divergent our species is. you've got some people who are really getting close to "people version 2.0" and then you've got complete dullards who will do bestial, prideless acts for the same amount of money as it costs for 2-4 people to eat at an exceptional restaurant ordering cheap wine.
porn people are weird--i'm convinced it's they view animal-rights as their only chance at showing they have some moral compass. they've blown their credibility with humans, animals may be smarter than nacho, but probably don't look at the rest of them as totally subhuman. for some porn chicks, animals may be the only thing with a hearbeat and warm blood that doesn't try to hurt, manipulate or take advantage of them. or it could be a coverup for becoming addicted to sex with german shepards, since we know most of them have done an internet scene with one from the spam headers we get.
Of course most women in porn love animals, for the reason you mentioned, unconditional love, it won't ask wheres its been and with who, wheres the money, hurt them physically or mentally and will always give it the attention they need when they need it. Regardless of the selfish reasons the girls like animals shouldn't discount people killing them for no good reason other then just because they can. I hate peta people almost as much as jrv, i think they try to fight everything pissing off people that could get behind them if they choose to pick their battles better and go after the ones they could win instead of taking on everyone but i don't think killing something for the sake of killing it is a worthy reason, live and let live unless we are talking about jrv in which case im happy to take him down with me.
I also think that people who bestiality do it because they love to fuck animals not because of the money. Bestiality for pay is like gay for pay, it doesn't exist, you either have a fetish for hardcore animal love or you don't. I would rather fuck a dude then an animal and i can't see any amount of money that would have me rub mine against another mans let alone blow or bang a dude.
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Most people need to feel outraged about something. If you don't feel outraged about something important, you will get upset about something trivial. That pornographers are getting so outraged over the animal killing of SexyOutdoorSports, it primarily shows that their moral compasses are broken. There are many things in the industry worthy of more indignation than this.
to an extent, I'm going to call bullshit. YES, there are other issues, but to downplay this one as an observation of “a broken moral compass” is nonsense.
It is justifiable to get worked up over this.
#1) it's fucked up. Bottom line. if it was a buffalo, duck or whatever.
and the fact of the matter is that all them fools with their little "gossip" sites clowning AVN for taking a stand, would probably drop all their smugness if the animal in question was a dog or cat.
Some bitch puts two in Spot's head then does an anal next to his rotting corpse?
oh wait, NOW it's ok to say "Hey that's not cool"? fuck all that. them cocksmokers need to shut the fuck up and get on board.
Like I said I don’t care if it was a donkey or a fucking Chihuahua. It sux. A lot of things suck. but don’t stop looking for a cure for cancer because you still haven’t found a cure for AIDS
#2) this shit is tailor made for the channel 7 news. especially with sweeps month how long do you think it'll be before this shit hits the air?
I mean geezus christ....you know them mother fuckers are as crooked as a snake just waiting to present this to the mindless masses at large that THIS is the porn of today. You know that.
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For porn girls in particular, excessive attachment to animals (and animal rights activism) is a way to assuage the basic female need to nurture which is healthfully satisfied by having children.
hogwash. I think that can be said about women in general. how many broads do you see with a dog sticking out of their purse or walking some mutt. Chix dig animals, Horses, dogs, cats whatever...it's not just porn chix.
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i eat meat but i've got to be honest that i don't like people who kill animals just for the sake of killing animals. if your not going to eat it or its not going to kill you then leave it alone. It does seem strange that this is getting more attention then the girl who got snuffed out a few months ago did.
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and the fact of the matter is that all them fools with their little "gossip" sites clowning AVN for taking a stand, would probably drop all their smugness if the animal in question was a dog or cat.
Well, our Native Peoples are known for their affinity with the earth so maybe that explains Monstar's charitable heart toward whore's too.
"And what are you?"
"I'm an otter!"
"And what is it you do?"
"I swim on my back and make cute little people motions with my hands!"
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"Okay, you're free to go."
"And what are you?"
"I'm a cow."
"GET ON THE FUCKING TRUCK!"
"B-b-b-but I'm an animal!"
"YOU'RE A FUCKING CATCHER'S MIT, GET ON THE GODDAMNED TRUCK."
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You think you own whatever land you land on
The Earth is just a dead thing you can claim
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You think the only people who are people
Are the people who look and think like you
But if you walk the footsteps of a stranger
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Have you ever heard the wolf cry to the blue corn moon
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i eat meat but i've got to be honest that i don't like people who kill animals just for the sake of killing animals. if your not going to eat it or its not going to kill you then leave it alone. It does seem strange that this is getting more attention then the girl who got snuffed out a few months ago did.
My sentiments exactly.
I think PETA is a noble idea gone terribly, terribly awry. I've often wondered, when the PETA bigwigs buy a luxury automobile, do they rip all the leather out and add cloth? I would assume sitting on, and being surrounded by, five cows worth of leather would be considered a sinful act, one worthy of decapitation or a three scene stint in a Gag Factor production.
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The Chinese have a saying:
ching chong ding dong chee mong do.
roughly translated it says:
All the creatures of the earth with four legs and their backs to heaven are food, except for the table and chairs.
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I agree so long as you eat what you kill. If I was hungry enough I would eat anything like a stranded soccer team 
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You know its fucked up when an indian is appalled, they used to kill everything.
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INDIAN USES OF THE BUFFALO
(HIDE - BUCKSKIN)
moccasin tops
cradles
winter robes
bedding
breechclouts
shirts
leggings
lance covers
belts
dresses
pipe bags
pouches
paint bags
pouches
dolls
coup flag covers
quivers
tipi covers
gun cases
(HAIR)
headdresses
saddle pad filler
pillows
rope
ornaments
halters
medicine balls
(TAIL)
medicine switch
fly brush
lodge exterior
decorations
whips
(HOOF & FEET)
glue
rattles
(HORNS)
cups
fire carriers
powder horn
spoons
ladles
headdresses
signals
toys
(MEAT)
(every part eaten)
pemmican (converted)
hump ribs-immediately
jerky (converted)
(SKIN OF HIND LEG)
moccasins or boots
(RAWHIDE)
containers
clothing
headdress
food
medicine bags
shields
buckets
moccasin soles
rattles
drums
drumsticks
splints
cinches
ropes
belts
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saddles
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lance cases
armbands
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You guys bring up some damn good points. I love animals, and I think it has a lot to do with the maternal instinct that most women have. Biology has made women into mothers automatically. My boyfriend and I were driving home from dinner the other night and I saw a stray dog crossing the street-- I screamed at him to stop so we could pick it up but he told me I was nuts and kept driving. He was probably right... I've already got a dog who is totally crazy, I don't need to adopt another one!
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Only in portn is it acceptable to stuff 2 cocks up a girls ass until she's a bleeding mess, ram a few down her throat until it ruptures, pump a few gonnorea and chlamydia fillled loads in every orafice possible, and then tell her she's on her own to pay the medical bills. And if you get hiv the industry will then print unflattering pictures of you, call you a skanking whore, and forget about you before the next scheduled shoot. But god forbid you do any harm to an innowcent buffolo that was raised in captivity for the sole purpose of being hunted by someone willing to pay the money to pull the trigger.
And now everyone is contacting PETA to get on this companies case.
If PETA had any credibility they would go after the porn industry that treats HUMANS like nothing more than disposable animals.
IS it just me or is the idea of porn producers calling for the ETHICAL THREATMENT OF ANIMALS, just a little bit hypocritcal considering how they treat human beings.
And isn't even funnier seeing these posrn starlets crying about these poor animals but doing nothing at all to help the abused(not all porn people are abused) humans in their own industry.
And AVN is still running ads for videos shot in brazil and other places by talent who then come back to infect their coworkers here in porn valley.
If half of the people in porn cared about humans half as much as they cared about these animals then maybe their critisism of this company would have some credibility. But standing up for animal rights while remaining completely silent about the rights of human beings is the epitomy of hypocrisy.
How much money have porn people donated to these causes? How much money have any of these people put up for those infected whit hiv in your industry? The answer to the second question is very close to absolutely nothing.
Now if you will excuse me i'm going fishing. And yes, I am going to kill those fish,and barbque them in a light lemon sauce with a hint of garlic. Maybe I'll even videotape the cleaning of the fish.
For the record, I too find this type of entertainment disgusting and worthy of all of the critisism that is being thrown at them. But lets get the priorities straight here people. In pron it seems that animals are worth more than humans.
Too bad there wasnt this much outrage when people were getting hiv. And did anyone notice that the one year anniversary of the outbreak went by without hardly anyone mentioning it at all. I'm sure Darren, Lara , jessica, and miss arroyo are very happy to see that their onetime fellow porn performers are SO concerned about these innocent animals, while showing absolutely no concern for them. What a great industry.
I'm sure that cytheria atn tyler are both very genuine in their concern for animals and that is commendable. But just imagine if these two used their status in the industry, with the help from ksex to fight for the rights of their fellow performers to be treated at least as good as they want these animals treated. Now that would be something positive, but for some reason i doubt it will ever happen. I hope i am wrong.
I CHALLENGE THIS INDUSTRY TO TREAT HUMAN BEINGS WITH THE SAME LEVEL OF RESPECT THAT THEY DEMAND FOR THESE INNOCENT ANIMALS.( Yes, i know, this is a joke) Nobody in their right mind will ever believe that the porn industry cares about the people it uses.
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Ouch. Good point.
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cruelty to people is a lot more sporting than shooting a cow. if you had a bad childhood, shitty parents, your skin is the wrong color or someone touched you when they shouldn't have you should be entitled to a mulligan or two but where does it stop? there are too many examples of talent and will succeeding in spite of disadvantage to warrant protecting everyone who's life isn't perfect. it's not like oppurtunity never presents itself-people find scholarships and ways to scrape by for a few years and end up more impressive than their classmates. you can do time and become the owner of redlight district and prey on the same disadvantaged group you came from. there are too many people, period. it's absolutely worth the time to make sure kids in africa survive to their third birthday and have a shot at living a good or bad life, but if you're 24 fucking embrace the fact you've lived to adulthood, and decide whether you like the idea that you've got a free will and power to change your wretched condition---or you can just be a career-victim. i'm not sure i want to hand you a life-preserver if you choose the latter when it's time to sink/swim.
they've got opposable-thumbs. even if they're mentally-handicapped, i'd still put them right behind lions as fair game, but well ahead of the asian water buffalo, which is in essence a jersey cow. but much more asian.
it comes down to paying someone close to $1000 for a few hours work despite the fact they are totally unqualified to do anything other than migrant labor versus shooting a defenseless animal several times before killing it, then pissing and fucking on its carcass.
when platinum x puts out a video where they do that to chicks, i'll rethink the situation.
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bingo. People chose to be in this biz. they didn't fall ass backwards into a double penetration.
what the fuck did the animals do? Live?
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Ouch. Good point.
I'm not sure if holly randall is related to the photographer suze randall, but i would like to point out that during last years hiv crisis that suze randall made a contribution of several thousand dollars to AIM and even went to the clinic for several days to help out.
It just goes to show that there are some people who care. Just not enough.
I think she was probably the only industry person who made any significant donation at that time.
Would any other industry people on this board like to say how much they donated to help these human beings last year, or are you too busy writing checks to PETA? I imagine there will be no resposnses at all to this inquiry.
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bingo. People chose to be in this biz. they didn't fall ass backwards into a double penetration.
what the fuck did the animals do? Live?
Monstar, I want to make it clear that i too find this 'entertainment' to be completely disgusting, but the point I am trying to make is the 'responsibility" of performers.
If you, as a male performer, stick your dick in a girls ass and cause an injury that requires medical attention, youhave to take a portion of the resposibility. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT YOU DO. IF YOU INJUR SOMEBODY, EVEN WHILE PERFORMING A CONSENSUAL ACT, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
I made a similar point in a different thraed a few months ago. Every golf couse has a sign that reads "GOLF AT YOUR OWN RISK" That does not mean that if you get hit by a golf ball you assume the respopnsibility. What it means is if you hit a golf ball and do damage with it you are responsible, just like any male performer is responsible for injuries caused by his 'tool'
And for the record, these animals are bred and born in captivity with the sole intent to sell them to any hunter who puts up the money to shoot them. That is specifically what these animals are raised for. I personallyfind this pretty disgusting, but two dicks pumping hiv up a gils ass is pretty disgusting too.
Like you said 'people choose to be in this buissness" That is absolutely true, and when you choose to do something that harms someone else you are responsible. If i choose to work in the construction field does that mean i have no recourse if somebody drops a hammer form the tenth floor and it hits me in the head. Of course there is inherent danger in many prog=fessions, it does not mean that you are not liable ifyou do any of those inherently dangerous things that causes injury to somebody else. Perhaps porn lawyer Don Hollywood would like to comment on this.
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