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Thank God someone knew that.

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One poster to FunWithPSEs Yahoo group argues yes: "The big deal is that the people that make the rules in this country say this kind of activity goes against the laws of an invisible mythological deity that lives in the sky and watches over us. Which flies in the face of our forefather's original intentions to keep a defined chasm between church and state by passing laws that protect religious moralties instead of public saftey or health."

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Oh my God, this made me burst out laughing. Moronic john crying about persecution, religious intolerance, etc... It reminded me of sitting on the couch--you know what I'm talking about--a few wisps still streaming out of the bong, 16 years old and damned certain that the gubbun'mint should get their fucking hands off my crops and go bust those dudes with the briefcases, man.

The fact is that a society can be defined--past, present, future--by the laws it makes restricting certain behavior it deems anti-social. Yes, perhaps someday, our looking askance at him paying the average yearly wage of a Sudanese herder to a 50% plastic/50% organic blond for entry into her vagina for an hour will seem ridiculous, and we'll look to future generations like witch-burners look to us. That's fucking life, Johnnie, get a goddamned helmet.

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another take on why the john can't complain is that making the cost of entry and potential downside of visiting a prostitute high enough isn't some religious-right bullshit, but rather a really, really smart idea developed over thousands of years.

highly-populated urban areas have more pathogens than rural ones and higher immunity, pathogens change faster than immunity does on animals like us with long-gestation times and you're now looking at a large number of nasty stuff that can get nastier fast. we can't do shit about viral infection, same as 2000 years ago. manhattan goes down if a filovirus hits it. that's an extreme example, but the fact is that too much sex kills-sorry all you sex-positive swinger-types, annie sprinkle/nina hartley and their apologists. look at the percentage of people with some kind of STD--it's fucking staggering. AIDS has cut the populationj of many african countries down to the point where the average lifespan is under 40 years. imagine if something like genital warts or herpes mutated to become more serious. there's nothing evil about fucking a hooker, i'm not that interested in it, but it makes a shitload of sense to make it more of a decision than whether you want to have chinese food for dinner.

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Whilst I generally agree with the thrust of your argument, I think you omitted an important distinction: It's not too much sex that kills, it's too many sexual partners. That's why someone like me chooses monogamy and uses porn as a vicarious outlet for his more polyamorous desires.


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another take on why the john can't complain is that making the cost of entry and potential downside of visiting a prostitute high enough isn't some religious-right bullshit, but rather a really, really smart idea developed over thousands of years.

highly-populated urban areas have more pathogens than rural ones and higher immunity, pathogens change faster than immunity does on animals like us with long-gestation times and you're now looking at a large number of nasty stuff that can get nastier fast. we can't do shit about viral infection, same as 2000 years ago. manhattan goes down if a filovirus hits it. that's an extreme example, but the fact is that too much sex kills-sorry all you sex-positive swinger-types, annie sprinkle/nina hartley and their apologists. look at the percentage of people with some kind of STD--it's fucking staggering. AIDS has cut the populationj of many african countries down to the point where the average lifespan is under 40 years. imagine if something like genital warts or herpes mutated to become more serious. there's nothing evil about fucking a hooker, i'm not that interested in it, but it makes a shitload of sense to make it more of a decision than whether you want to have chinese food for dinner.

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Whilst I generally agree with the thrust of your argument, I think you omitted an important distinction: It's not too much sex that kills, it's too many sexual partners. That's why someone like me chooses monogamy and uses porn as a vicarious outlet for his more polyamorous desires.

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I agree.

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i thought i'd made the many-partners thing kinda understood, i even threw in swinging as something in the "dangerous" league as seeing prostitutes. i should have been more explicit--yes, monogamy is a totally different ballgame in terms of exposure. the point was, sex isn't without some gravity--fucking lots of people who have fucked hundreds of people will leave you with an itchy, recurring rash as the best-case scenario. fuciing one person who's been tested 40 times a day is fine unless you're smartt and need to be prevented from breeding.

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It was implicit in your words, but I think that it's best to spell these things out explicitly, lest your argument be misunderstood as that of an anti-sex prude. The "sex-positive" types you refer to aren't generally the most critical of thinkers.

I also think that casual sex can be psychologically damaging in a subtle but cumulative way. It's more of a gut feeling than something I could back up with hard evidence though.


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you're right, i've got a tendency to assume the average bear will understand more stuff than they do.

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