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Does porn Rob You of Intimacy?
#143755 - 03/01/06 02:06 AM
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Intimacy...knowing your partner as well as you know yourself. It is what truly cements a relationship between a man and a woman. What her favorite fragrance is, what his favorite desert is, why she hates tall buildings, why he won't let you play with his ass during sex. All aspects of intimacy. It used to be that sexual relations was the cornerstone to intimacy in a relationship, but that has been erased thanks to today's over-the-top Circus Atmosphere Pornography. As I have been reading lukeisback and observing the wonderful sharing of intimacy between Luke and Holly, I am both amazed and dismayed, simply because it is set against the backdrop of pornography.
Luke and Holly are lucky...their sex life will forever always be theres, apart from what specific details Luke chooses to publish on his website. In other words, if Luke and Holly ever decide to have anal intercourse, it will not be on film for all the world to share in and see. What's more, since Holly does not perform in Pornographic films, Luke is only sharing, in a limited fashion, whatever sexual relations he has with Holly with her previous lovers, which is a limited number of men. If Holly had been having sex on Film, Luke would basically be sharing her with the world, for we would all be vicariously having sex with Holly by watching these films, no doubt rubbing our gonads in a rapid up and down manner until climax was reached. In a word, Luke would be 'robbed' of this intimate aspect of his relationship.
I think of several specific porn chicks (out of many) I have seen on film, who I may have liked to possibly get to know better, perhaps even date. I have seen them with all manner and combinations of male partners, with multiple penis' in their orifices, getting doused by dozens of loads at a time...I have seen men ejaculating right inside their vaginas in what is known as "internal creampies"...this used to be known as 'making love/producing children'. I feel robbed....even though I may still like these specific individual women for their personalities and other qualities, I will never truly know what it is like to be sexually intimate with them. Because when I am finally in a position to be busting a nut inside them, I will have to reconcile the fact that at that moment, all around the world, thousands of men are ALSO vicariously doing it to her through the pornographic movies she made.
I am truly a member of a global village, thanks to Pornography...I feel very exposed right now. And robbed....
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Hey Floof! How's it going? 
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Shouldn't this be moved to "Talent for Hire", where only Chico has to read it?
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Huh? 
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Nope.
When you have this intimate relationship with a pornstar, I hope it's different from jacking off or performing on a porn set, for both your sakes.
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Porn can't rob you of anything. You rob yourself.
FYI - This is the deepest post I will ever make. 
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If there's any robbing going on, its more so the performer allowing the industry to extract their ability to engage in any bit of intimacy.
We are our own dignity extractors by willingly getting down on our knees, looking up with the look of no soul in our eyes, opening wide, AHH. 
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Hey Gen
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If there's any robbing going on, its more so the performer allowing the industry to extract their ability to engage in any bit of intimacy.
We are our own dignity extractors by willingly getting down on our knees, looking up with the look of no soul in our eyes, opening wide, AHH.
Thank goodness for Gen and all the other girls in porn!!! 
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I don't think porn robs you of intimacy at all. Porn is acting. If a girl is with you because she wants to be with you then thats intimacy 
Intimacy is being in love with someone and it shouldn't matter what career she does
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Does porn Rob You of Intimacy? Only if it's done right 
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"I took cock up my ass on dvd for 3 years. I'd say I revealed a lot of myself to the entire world there. "
- Gia Jordan, telling it like it is.
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I'm not sure if my vote counts since I don't perform in front of the cameras, but I don't feel it's made my love life any less intimate at all.
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I really try to retain a respectful distance from my models, even when I'm lubing up their pussies.
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What cements a relationship between a man and a woman is mutual respect and trust. A man and woman can meet, fall in love, and have a mutually fullfiling relationship without being physically intimate [ie. having sex]. It's emotional and intellectual intimacy that forms the bedrock of longlasting relationships. Sex is a purely physical act [albeit a thoroughly enjoyable one]. Pornography doesn't rob anyone of anything... intimacy, dignity or otherwise. Under the best of circumstances it can enhance a physical relationship, and only becomes an obstacle when people let their own jealousy and possesiveness take control. And although that kind of caveman mentality is understandable, it's a little impractical in an age when more and more women are challenging the double-standard that labels them "whores" for displaying behavior that men are typically admired for.
As far as Luke and Holly are concerned, all I can say is... Jesus Christ Holly, come on!
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I'm not sure if my vote counts since I don't perform in front of the cameras, but I don't feel it's made my love life any less intimate at all.
That was my point...you are right on the edge, the pareto efficient intersection, of where porn can help or harm, add to or rob, a relationship betwixt a man and a woman. You and Luke, BECAUSE you merely make and write about explicit, filthy pornography and not ACTUALLY perform in it...can reap the benefits of doing/reenacting all the things you see everyday in and around the porn sets you are on...and NO ONE else can see/share in what you do.
Furthermore, on those cold rainy Late Winter nights when Luke has taken a double dose of Viagra and as he is driving Holly's beautiful head into the Oak headboard on her bed, as he plows her lentil beanfield mercilessly like King David after watching Bathsheba play with Mr Bubbles from his rooftop, No One else anywhere on the planet is watching Holly get plowed (and by extension, vicariously plowing Holly through visual fantasy/mental rape enabled by pornographic films...)...so Luke & holly's physical/sexual-spiritual intimacy is kept between themselves....
See Holly, you intuitively understand and express the point of this thread despite your doubts and slightly guilt-ridden conscience....Luke is having a thoroughly Moral Impact upon your heart and mind.... 
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I'm not sure if my vote counts since I don't perform in front of the cameras, but I don't feel it's made my love life any less intimate at all.
Cool.Can you stop by my office when you get a chance,I want to hit you. 
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I'm not sure if my vote counts since I don't perform in front of the cameras, but I don't feel it's made my love life any less intimate at all.
Cool.Can you stop by my office when you get a chance,I want to hit you.
Careful... that might just turn me on.
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holly, i hold you responsible for the fact luke is now somehow photographing mentally-disabled 35-year old women who are cared for by their aging family in their childhood room replete with teddy-bears, nancy drew books, and a wardrobe of mostly sweatpants and sweatshirts with embroidered cats on them to go to the park in. seriously, i worry about him and pray his faith is strong enough to resist giving her a bag of twizzlers and then sexually-abusing her now that he's a bottle of cialis and nothing but reason magazine to facilitate his self-abuse.
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Holly, I'm sure you are a sweet gal and all, in some ways I think that makes you all the more objectionable. Your sweet veneer and your (parents) winding driveway into the hills hang like a sheen of normalcy over what you actually do.
There can be no doubt that you are a facilitator of destruction in the lives of those you photograph. (Just ask Simp/Luke.) An honorable person of your "position" and intelligence should be forced by conscience alone to refrain from taking advantage of the desperation/stupidity of others.
When you frolic in the fountains of Rome (funded by the profits of your exploitation) do you ever wonder if your "subjects" dreamed of visiting the very spot in which you stand? Or perhaps you do not give them enough credit as human beings and feel a natural separation between your place and theirs.
Like I said, I'm sure you are great to talk to in person and all, but your "act" makes me uncomfortable. The same kind of "uncomfortable" I experience when I imagine living in my parents house in my late 20's.
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