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Max Hardcore Indicted on Obscenity Charges
#237803 - 05/31/07 03:43 PM
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http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=23329
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Yet they allow obscene freaks of nature like you walk around freely. What is this world coming to?
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Absolute horseshit... fuck the DOJ and Bush.
We're pulling for you Max!!!
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I've wondered a few times before how Gonzo fares under obscenity standard as opposed to features.
The first test under the obscenity standard is that an adult movie is not obscene unless it appeals solely to a "prurient interest". In other words, does it have any other purpose besides masterbation. Features passed the test, becuase they had story lines. If you pass the first test then you go on to the "community obscenity test".
Fast forward to today's Gonzo product. What's missing? Story lines. What's left, nothing but sexual titillation.
Does much of modern Gonzo fail the first prong of the obscenity test--as there is no reason to watch most Gonzo films other than to jerk off.
The funny thing is that Extreme and a few other companies worked some political or anti-religious message into their films. For example, "Forced Entry" can be viewed as a commentary on Richard Ramirez. So the government would still need to prove Extreme violated community standards.
There is alot of porn out there with no story and wall to wall sex. Quick, what's any Jules Jordan film about? "Max Hardcore"? I could go on, but you get the point.
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This is bullshit. I'm not a big fan of Max, but have no problem with him. Is he obscene? Absolutely? Does he exploit the sexuality of children? Absolutely not. What Max does is exploit a fetish, which is no more illegal than the accepted fetish of infantilism.
Love him or hate him, Max Hardcore is not a pedophile. He just plays one on TV. Leave the fucker alone.
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Please remember Max in your prayers.
Who else produces and distributes that kind of pissing material?
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Please remember Max in your prayers.
Who else produces and distributes that kind of pissing material?
Suck a dick Luke... that's your bread and butter you're talking about.
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http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=20916563
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First I would like to congratulate attorney Jeffrey Douglas, and yet un-named local Florida counsel who as hardcore's lawyers are going to be figuratively backing up the Brink's truck to Hardcore's business. Here are some of my rough estimates, I've arbitarily set Douglas's compensation at $350 an hour though I doubt its much less then that.
Lets see, 50 hours at $350 an hour. $17,500 for "it was a a big misunderstanding, you're free to go.
150 hours at $350 an hour or $52,000 for takes a plea bargain right before trial after an unsuccessful motion to dismiss
300 hours at $350 an hour for full trial, including jury selection. Say $105,000. Does not count the cost of an appeals lawyer if Max loses at trial.
Lets also assume plane tickets to Florida, hiring outside counsel, expert witnesses, renting accomodations in Florida etc. If I've over-estimated the hourly costs that could be up to another $30,000 to $50,000.
Hey, Moxie what do you think of these figures? High? or Low?
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Max has got the green to fight it. Just proves that the fuckers will come for you any route they can. Be interesting to see if this one gets thrown out or not.
Good luck, Max. Just because I don't like your porn doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to make it and sell it.
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I don't like Max at all, but this is bullshit.
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Good luck, Max. Just because I don't like your porn doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to make it and sell it.
I think this sums up the situation well
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You know, with the MPAA has been toying around with the idea of giving movies that portray smoking in a glamorous light(which, I suppose means if the smoker doesn't die of cancer by the end of the flick) R-ratings and the numerous "no smoking in public at all" laws passed and trying to be passed, I think I know why they are going after Max. Girls are sometimes showed <gasp> smoking in his flicks. Fist fucking and pissing might have been obscene in the DoJ's eyes, but I have a feeling the Anti-Smoking Fascists in power may have had a hand in this one also.
Seriously, though, Good luck to Max with this(Jeff and Rob too, even though Rob's porn does kinda suck). You guys look like you'll need it.
and kudos for standing up to the bastards instead of pussying out like the dude who made that fisting video with Chloe and Alisha Klass.
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Paperchase, add another $500K and you'll be in the ballpark. Trials are expensive, two month trials are more expensive. The US Attorneys have a knack for dragging things out. I don't think Max will have the same attorney come trial or at least he won't be working alone. A former US Attorney will be brought on to the team. I don't have any inside info, its just the way things happen. They should already be preparing for the appeal. I would think they have already started pleading with Gene Volokh to come on as an appelate advisor. If the government sets a precedent, Max will have company.
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Kick their asses, Max.
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why in the hell would you host a website like Max's in the US????? There are so many ISPs in europe that can host it.
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Paperchase, add another $500K and you'll be in the ballpark. Trials are expensive, two month trials are more expensive. The US Attorneys have a knack for dragging things out. I don't think Max will have the same attorney come trial or at least he won't be working alone. A former US Attorney will be brought on to the team. I don't have any inside info, its just the way things happen. They should already be preparing for the appeal. I would think they have already started pleading with Gene Volokh to come on as an appelate advisor. If the government sets a precedent, Max will have company.
Assuming your figures are correct and we divide up the cost as $500,000 for legal fees and say $100,000 for expenses that would put us in the neighborhood of 1400 hours of billable time. Why do you think it would be a two month trial Paperchase?
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Assuming your figures are correct and we divide up the cost as $500,000 for legal fees and say $100,000 for expenses that would put us in the neighborhood of 1400 hours of billable time. Why do you think it would be a two month trial Paperchase?
Talking to yourself? Hmmmmmmmmmmm
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